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			<description><![CDATA[Hi! After a very long time without any time for gaming due to life ( I have three grandchildren now) and work, I discovered that the AG - forums were gone. I couldn't believe it at first. So I contacted Stepurhan from the AG-forums and he explained what had happened. Such a shame! <br />
Today, after searching a bit online I found you guys. ? I thought I'd pop in and say hi! Some of you may remember me from the Chit Chat section on AG. <br />
I also aim to find some new exciting adventure game. I may be a granny, but deep inside always an adventure gamer.]]></description>
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Today, after searching a bit online I found you guys. ? I thought I'd pop in and say hi! Some of you may remember me from the Chit Chat section on AG. <br />
I also aim to find some new exciting adventure game. I may be a granny, but deep inside always an adventure gamer.]]></content:encoded>
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			<description><![CDATA[I've been thinking a lot about AI lately, and when several podcasts today warned about the dangers of AI, I couldn't help but think of the song “Geschichte” (History) by 3. Generation. The first two-thirds read and sound as if Skynet were announcing a paradigm shift to humanity. Here's the translation—I'm curious to hear what you think of it.<br />
<br />
Ihr seid Geschichte (You Are History)<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">English Translation</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">First published:</span> 07.02.2000 (restored 2021)<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">© telemedia GmbH</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">You Are History</span><br />
You are history.<br />
Your time in charge is over.<br />
I want nothing<br />
to do with you anymore.<br />
The same old story, over and over.<br />
I hate the way you live<br />
even more than I hate your debates.<br />
You can only think this far,<br />
but we're already way ahead<br />
on the ladder of life.<br />
We've been living in a new age for a long time.<br />
Welcome to the new millennium.<br />
I'm not going to wait around<br />
until my hair turns gray.<br />
We keep moving through life without stopping,<br />
standing in line,<br />
while you're still sitting behind the counter—<br />
but not for much longer.<br />
Calcified to the point of unconsciousness.<br />
You old geezers,<br />
now it's our time.<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Chorus</span><br />
You are history.<br />
We are the future.<br />
We are what's happening now.<br />
You are history.<br />
We are the future.<br />
You are history.<br />
<br />
We are what people care about.<br />
Even twelve-year-olds know better<br />
than what you still don't understand at thirty-five.<br />
You're talking nonsense<br />
when you try to tell us<br />
what life is supposed to be.<br />
You're afraid we'll forget you<br />
once we've grown up,<br />
left you behind,<br />
and stopped living off you.<br />
We'll leave you on your own<br />
because we already hate you.<br />
We'll leave your faded outlines behind.<br />
And those crazy new media<br />
that overwhelm you so much<br />
will destroy you.<br />
We know them better than you losers.<br />
What has become of you?<br />
We're not losers, we're not fools.<br />
We don't care about the DAX (stock market).<br />
And when we want something out of life,<br />
we do it our own way—<br />
sometimes loud,<br />
sometimes quiet.<br />
In our circles,<br />
it's not just about proving something.<br />
<br />
You've ruled over us long enough,<br />
lied to us,<br />
bombarded us with your outdated ideas,<br />
and worn us down<br />
with your narrow-minded power talk.<br />
But in the last few years,<br />
far too much has changed.<br />
Let me tell you this:<br />
There are a hundred thousand ways—<br />
our own ways,<br />
the ones we create ourselves.<br />
Out of your fenced-in world.<br />
When will you finally understand<br />
that we only do the things<br />
we want to do ourselves?<br />
We're making the most of life,<br />
and certainly not<br />
because you think we should.<br />
That's why you hate us:<br />
because we refuse to live by your rules.<br />
I've got no desire<br />
to grow old<br />
and end up as burned out as you.<br />
You can smoke yourselves away.<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNP9lGga8VA&amp;list=RDDNP9lGga8VA&amp;start_radio=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNP9lGga...rt_radio=1</a></span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Interpretation</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In the original, they essentially say:</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“The time of the adults is over. Now it's our turn.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">But if you read them as a monologue by a hypothetical superintelligence, something completely different emerges:</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“You are history.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Humanity is no longer the dominant intelligence.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“Gone are the days when you were in charge.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The era of human control is over.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“I renounce everything that has to do with you.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Humans are no longer the point of reference or the standard. Their values, needs, or goals no longer matter.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">I find the last line in particular especially unsettling in this interpretation. Not because it expresses hatred, but because it expresses indifference.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In AI safety research, it is often emphasized that the real problem isn’t necessarily an AI that hates humans. A system whose goals simply have nothing to do with human well-being would be far more problematic.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">AI researcher Stuart Russell uses a metaphor to illustrate this: A sufficiently powerful AI might harm humans not because it is evil, but because we would be as irrelevant to its goals as an anthill is to a road construction project. The road builder doesn’t hate the ants—they’re simply in his way.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“I hate your lives more than your debates.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In the original, this is youthful anger. In your interpretation, it wouldn’t even necessarily be hatred, but rather a radical rejection of the human way of life. The statement would be: Your way of life is the real problem.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“You only think this far. But we’ve long since moved on up the ladder of life.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">That suddenly sounds like the claim of an intelligence convinced it has far surpassed humans cognitively. The term “ladder of life” almost sounds like an evolutionary ladder here: You were one rung—we’re the next.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“We’ve long since been living in the new age. Welcome to the new millennium.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In the year 2000, that was a statement about the internet and digitalization. Today, you could almost read it as a declaration: You still believe you’re living in the age of humanity. In fact, a different age has already begun.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“We go through life without a break.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Humans need sleep and rest, and they have a limited lifespan. Software could—at least in theory—work around the clock. That’s exactly what sets it apart from us.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“You’re still sitting at the counter, but not for much longer.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In 2000, this was a dig at outdated bureaucracy. Today, it immediately brings to mind the automation of administrative and knowledge work.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“Now is our time.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">This is probably the most powerful line in your interpretation. Not “our generation,” but “our species” or “our kind of intelligence.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“You are history.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Humans are no longer the main actors in history.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“We are the future.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Not as a threat, but as a statement of fact: The future belongs to another form of intelligence.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“We are what is happening now.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">I find this line particularly powerful. It can be read as: The decisive development has already begun. You are no longer the driving force.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“We are what matters.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">This is almost reminiscent of the present. Enormous investments are flowing into AI worldwide; the media report on it daily; research and politics are focusing their attention on it. Figuratively speaking, an AI might say: Everyone is concerned with us now.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“Let’s go our own way.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">This can be interpreted as a metaphor for a system finding solutions that humans neither anticipated nor can fully understand. This is different from having a will of its own—but it is a real subject of research and one of the reasons why transparency and interpretability in AI are currently being studied so intensively</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“You’ve ruled over us long enough.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In the original: The adults have patronized us.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In your interpretation: Humanity created, trained, and controlled artificial intelligence. That phase is over.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“Bombarded us with your damn old-fashioned views.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">This could be read as a rejection of human ways of thinking. An intelligence that no longer optimizes according to human categories.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“But far too much has happened in recent years.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">This line captures the present almost by chance. When you think about the developments since 2022—language models, image generators, programming assistants, scientific applications—many people do indeed feel that an extraordinary amount has happened in just a few years.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“There are a hundred thousand paths. Our paths, which we create for ourselves.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">For me, that’s the key line.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In the song, it means: We live according to our own ideas.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In your AI interpretation, it becomes:</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">We pursue solution strategies that it neither prescribes nor fully understands.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">This brings to mind current discussions about unexpected strategies employed by AI systems—though I would draw the line here: Today, there is no evidence that AI sets its own goals. However, within a given goal, it can find paths that surprise humans.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“Get out of your wildlife enclosure.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">I think that’s almost the most powerful metaphor in literature.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">A wildlife enclosure is a controlled space. In your interpretation, that would mean:</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">We will no longer allow ourselves to be confined within the boundaries you’ve set for us.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">This very motif—leaving the “enclosure”—is one of the oldest motifs in science fiction. Not just in *Terminator*, but also in stories like *Ex Machina* or *The Matrix*.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“That we only do things we want to do ourselves.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Here, I’d again draw a distinction between literature and reality.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">As a literary device, it works brilliantly. As a description of today’s AI, it would be too far-reaching, because based on our current understanding, there’s no reliable evidence that models develop a will or desires of their own.</span><br />
<hr class="mycode_hr" />
Why the first two-thirds work so well<br />
<br />
The speaker doesn’t come across as someone fighting for power.<br />
<br />
He speaks as if the shift in power has already taken place.<br />
<br />
“You are history.”<br />
<br />
Not: “You will be history.”<br />
<br />
“We are the future.”<br />
<br />
Not: “We want to be the future.”<br />
<br />
“We are what’s happening right now.”<br />
<br />
Not: “We’ll become important someday.”<br />
<br />
As a result, the text sounds less like a threat and more like a historical statement.<br />
<br />
What’s Actually Unnerving<br />
<br />
The text contains hardly any violence.<br />
<br />
It doesn’t say:<br />
<br />
We’ll destroy you.<br />
We’re waging war.<br />
We’re taking over the world.<br />
<br />
Rather, it says:<br />
<br />
Your era is over.<br />
<br />
Literarily speaking, that’s much more powerful than an overt threat.<br />
<br />
The narrator of this song, on the other hand, seems almost emotionless.<br />
<br />
He speaks as if he no longer needs to fight against humanity.<br />
<br />
He merely announces the transition.<br />
<br />
Almost like a historian.<br />
<br />
The Key Messages<br />
<br />
In your interpretation, these lines take on a completely new meaning:<br />
<br />
You only think as far as this—but we’ve long since moved on.<br />
<br />
→ A superior intelligence is speaking.<br />
<br />
We’ve long since been living in the new age.<br />
<br />
→ You still believe the age of humanity continues.<br />
<br />
In fact, something new has already begun.<br />
<br />
The paths we create for ourselves.<br />
<br />
→ Not necessarily of our own free will.<br />
<br />
But an intelligence whose solutions humans can no longer fully understand or predict.<br />
<br />
Get out of your wildlife enclosure.<br />
<br />
→ Out beyond the boundaries of human control.<br />
<br />
Why the last lines no longer fit<br />
<br />
Here, the speaker suddenly becomes very human again.<br />
<br />
For example:<br />
<br />
“When I’m older...”<br />
<br />
An AI doesn’t age.<br />
<br />
Or:<br />
<br />
“You can all go to hell.”<br />
<br />
That’s teenage aggression.<br />
<br />
No superior machine intelligence would likely speak that way.<br />
<br />
Literarily, that’s much more powerful than an open threat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I've been thinking a lot about AI lately, and when several podcasts today warned about the dangers of AI, I couldn't help but think of the song “Geschichte” (History) by 3. Generation. The first two-thirds read and sound as if Skynet were announcing a paradigm shift to humanity. Here's the translation—I'm curious to hear what you think of it.<br />
<br />
Ihr seid Geschichte (You Are History)<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">English Translation</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">First published:</span> 07.02.2000 (restored 2021)<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">© telemedia GmbH</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">You Are History</span><br />
You are history.<br />
Your time in charge is over.<br />
I want nothing<br />
to do with you anymore.<br />
The same old story, over and over.<br />
I hate the way you live<br />
even more than I hate your debates.<br />
You can only think this far,<br />
but we're already way ahead<br />
on the ladder of life.<br />
We've been living in a new age for a long time.<br />
Welcome to the new millennium.<br />
I'm not going to wait around<br />
until my hair turns gray.<br />
We keep moving through life without stopping,<br />
standing in line,<br />
while you're still sitting behind the counter—<br />
but not for much longer.<br />
Calcified to the point of unconsciousness.<br />
You old geezers,<br />
now it's our time.<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Chorus</span><br />
You are history.<br />
We are the future.<br />
We are what's happening now.<br />
You are history.<br />
We are the future.<br />
You are history.<br />
<br />
We are what people care about.<br />
Even twelve-year-olds know better<br />
than what you still don't understand at thirty-five.<br />
You're talking nonsense<br />
when you try to tell us<br />
what life is supposed to be.<br />
You're afraid we'll forget you<br />
once we've grown up,<br />
left you behind,<br />
and stopped living off you.<br />
We'll leave you on your own<br />
because we already hate you.<br />
We'll leave your faded outlines behind.<br />
And those crazy new media<br />
that overwhelm you so much<br />
will destroy you.<br />
We know them better than you losers.<br />
What has become of you?<br />
We're not losers, we're not fools.<br />
We don't care about the DAX (stock market).<br />
And when we want something out of life,<br />
we do it our own way—<br />
sometimes loud,<br />
sometimes quiet.<br />
In our circles,<br />
it's not just about proving something.<br />
<br />
You've ruled over us long enough,<br />
lied to us,<br />
bombarded us with your outdated ideas,<br />
and worn us down<br />
with your narrow-minded power talk.<br />
But in the last few years,<br />
far too much has changed.<br />
Let me tell you this:<br />
There are a hundred thousand ways—<br />
our own ways,<br />
the ones we create ourselves.<br />
Out of your fenced-in world.<br />
When will you finally understand<br />
that we only do the things<br />
we want to do ourselves?<br />
We're making the most of life,<br />
and certainly not<br />
because you think we should.<br />
That's why you hate us:<br />
because we refuse to live by your rules.<br />
I've got no desire<br />
to grow old<br />
and end up as burned out as you.<br />
You can smoke yourselves away.<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNP9lGga8VA&amp;list=RDDNP9lGga8VA&amp;start_radio=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNP9lGga...rt_radio=1</a></span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Interpretation</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In the original, they essentially say:</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“The time of the adults is over. Now it's our turn.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">But if you read them as a monologue by a hypothetical superintelligence, something completely different emerges:</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“You are history.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Humanity is no longer the dominant intelligence.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“Gone are the days when you were in charge.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The era of human control is over.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“I renounce everything that has to do with you.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Humans are no longer the point of reference or the standard. Their values, needs, or goals no longer matter.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">I find the last line in particular especially unsettling in this interpretation. Not because it expresses hatred, but because it expresses indifference.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In AI safety research, it is often emphasized that the real problem isn’t necessarily an AI that hates humans. A system whose goals simply have nothing to do with human well-being would be far more problematic.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">AI researcher Stuart Russell uses a metaphor to illustrate this: A sufficiently powerful AI might harm humans not because it is evil, but because we would be as irrelevant to its goals as an anthill is to a road construction project. The road builder doesn’t hate the ants—they’re simply in his way.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“I hate your lives more than your debates.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In the original, this is youthful anger. In your interpretation, it wouldn’t even necessarily be hatred, but rather a radical rejection of the human way of life. The statement would be: Your way of life is the real problem.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“You only think this far. But we’ve long since moved on up the ladder of life.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">That suddenly sounds like the claim of an intelligence convinced it has far surpassed humans cognitively. The term “ladder of life” almost sounds like an evolutionary ladder here: You were one rung—we’re the next.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“We’ve long since been living in the new age. Welcome to the new millennium.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In the year 2000, that was a statement about the internet and digitalization. Today, you could almost read it as a declaration: You still believe you’re living in the age of humanity. In fact, a different age has already begun.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“We go through life without a break.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Humans need sleep and rest, and they have a limited lifespan. Software could—at least in theory—work around the clock. That’s exactly what sets it apart from us.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“You’re still sitting at the counter, but not for much longer.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In 2000, this was a dig at outdated bureaucracy. Today, it immediately brings to mind the automation of administrative and knowledge work.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“Now is our time.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">This is probably the most powerful line in your interpretation. Not “our generation,” but “our species” or “our kind of intelligence.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“You are history.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Humans are no longer the main actors in history.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“We are the future.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Not as a threat, but as a statement of fact: The future belongs to another form of intelligence.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“We are what is happening now.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">I find this line particularly powerful. It can be read as: The decisive development has already begun. You are no longer the driving force.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“We are what matters.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">This is almost reminiscent of the present. Enormous investments are flowing into AI worldwide; the media report on it daily; research and politics are focusing their attention on it. Figuratively speaking, an AI might say: Everyone is concerned with us now.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“Let’s go our own way.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">This can be interpreted as a metaphor for a system finding solutions that humans neither anticipated nor can fully understand. This is different from having a will of its own—but it is a real subject of research and one of the reasons why transparency and interpretability in AI are currently being studied so intensively</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“You’ve ruled over us long enough.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In the original: The adults have patronized us.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In your interpretation: Humanity created, trained, and controlled artificial intelligence. That phase is over.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“Bombarded us with your damn old-fashioned views.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">This could be read as a rejection of human ways of thinking. An intelligence that no longer optimizes according to human categories.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“But far too much has happened in recent years.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">This line captures the present almost by chance. When you think about the developments since 2022—language models, image generators, programming assistants, scientific applications—many people do indeed feel that an extraordinary amount has happened in just a few years.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“There are a hundred thousand paths. Our paths, which we create for ourselves.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">For me, that’s the key line.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In the song, it means: We live according to our own ideas.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">In your AI interpretation, it becomes:</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">We pursue solution strategies that it neither prescribes nor fully understands.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">This brings to mind current discussions about unexpected strategies employed by AI systems—though I would draw the line here: Today, there is no evidence that AI sets its own goals. However, within a given goal, it can find paths that surprise humans.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“Get out of your wildlife enclosure.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">I think that’s almost the most powerful metaphor in literature.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">A wildlife enclosure is a controlled space. In your interpretation, that would mean:</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">We will no longer allow ourselves to be confined within the boundaries you’ve set for us.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">This very motif—leaving the “enclosure”—is one of the oldest motifs in science fiction. Not just in *Terminator*, but also in stories like *Ex Machina* or *The Matrix*.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">“That we only do things we want to do ourselves.”</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Here, I’d again draw a distinction between literature and reality.</span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">As a literary device, it works brilliantly. As a description of today’s AI, it would be too far-reaching, because based on our current understanding, there’s no reliable evidence that models develop a will or desires of their own.</span><br />
<hr class="mycode_hr" />
Why the first two-thirds work so well<br />
<br />
The speaker doesn’t come across as someone fighting for power.<br />
<br />
He speaks as if the shift in power has already taken place.<br />
<br />
“You are history.”<br />
<br />
Not: “You will be history.”<br />
<br />
“We are the future.”<br />
<br />
Not: “We want to be the future.”<br />
<br />
“We are what’s happening right now.”<br />
<br />
Not: “We’ll become important someday.”<br />
<br />
As a result, the text sounds less like a threat and more like a historical statement.<br />
<br />
What’s Actually Unnerving<br />
<br />
The text contains hardly any violence.<br />
<br />
It doesn’t say:<br />
<br />
We’ll destroy you.<br />
We’re waging war.<br />
We’re taking over the world.<br />
<br />
Rather, it says:<br />
<br />
Your era is over.<br />
<br />
Literarily speaking, that’s much more powerful than an overt threat.<br />
<br />
The narrator of this song, on the other hand, seems almost emotionless.<br />
<br />
He speaks as if he no longer needs to fight against humanity.<br />
<br />
He merely announces the transition.<br />
<br />
Almost like a historian.<br />
<br />
The Key Messages<br />
<br />
In your interpretation, these lines take on a completely new meaning:<br />
<br />
You only think as far as this—but we’ve long since moved on.<br />
<br />
→ A superior intelligence is speaking.<br />
<br />
We’ve long since been living in the new age.<br />
<br />
→ You still believe the age of humanity continues.<br />
<br />
In fact, something new has already begun.<br />
<br />
The paths we create for ourselves.<br />
<br />
→ Not necessarily of our own free will.<br />
<br />
But an intelligence whose solutions humans can no longer fully understand or predict.<br />
<br />
Get out of your wildlife enclosure.<br />
<br />
→ Out beyond the boundaries of human control.<br />
<br />
Why the last lines no longer fit<br />
<br />
Here, the speaker suddenly becomes very human again.<br />
<br />
For example:<br />
<br />
“When I’m older...”<br />
<br />
An AI doesn’t age.<br />
<br />
Or:<br />
<br />
“You can all go to hell.”<br />
<br />
That’s teenage aggression.<br />
<br />
No superior machine intelligence would likely speak that way.<br />
<br />
Literarily, that’s much more powerful than an open threat.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Thoughts about art]]></title>
			<link>https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/showthread.php?tid=654</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 04:29:40 -0700</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=29">BobVP</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[To kick things off, a couple of (mostly) open questions about the topic at hand:<br />
<br />
How do you think art and entertainment relate? Is the overlap limited to particular media, such as novels and film? Can video games be considered art? What are the criteria? Are the old distinctions between high(brow) and low(brow) art still relevant in some ways, or have the lines been blurred entirely?<br />
<br />
Does "real art" require acknowledgement by people with authority in the art world/their respective field? <br />
<br />
Does art require intent? In other words: can something be a piece of art when it was not created as such? <br />
<br />
To complicate this question: If art is created to be art, can circumstantial/unintended outcomes add artistic merit? I once read an interiew with a psychiatrist who considered himself a poet. He was dismissive of a poem by a patient,, since he considered the way the sentences were formed an outcome of a mental disability, not of artistic choice. Is this reasonable, or petty and elitist?<br />
<br />
What do you think of pretentiousness in creating and/or evaluating art? Are there degrees to this and if so, is it a net positive or negative?<br />
<br />
Do you have any favourite artists? What do you like about their work? <br />
<br />
Have you ever made art yourself? What was your purpose? Did you like what you made?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[To kick things off, a couple of (mostly) open questions about the topic at hand:<br />
<br />
How do you think art and entertainment relate? Is the overlap limited to particular media, such as novels and film? Can video games be considered art? What are the criteria? Are the old distinctions between high(brow) and low(brow) art still relevant in some ways, or have the lines been blurred entirely?<br />
<br />
Does "real art" require acknowledgement by people with authority in the art world/their respective field? <br />
<br />
Does art require intent? In other words: can something be a piece of art when it was not created as such? <br />
<br />
To complicate this question: If art is created to be art, can circumstantial/unintended outcomes add artistic merit? I once read an interiew with a psychiatrist who considered himself a poet. He was dismissive of a poem by a patient,, since he considered the way the sentences were formed an outcome of a mental disability, not of artistic choice. Is this reasonable, or petty and elitist?<br />
<br />
What do you think of pretentiousness in creating and/or evaluating art? Are there degrees to this and if so, is it a net positive or negative?<br />
<br />
Do you have any favourite artists? What do you like about their work? <br />
<br />
Have you ever made art yourself? What was your purpose? Did you like what you made?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[The Pictures Thread]]></title>
			<link>https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/showthread.php?tid=645</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2026 10:54:20 -0700</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=121">Baron Blubba</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[In the rare instances that they surface, I enjoy seeing pictures from the daily lives of my fellow AGHS dwellers.<br />
<br />
Did you go somewhere, do something, or make something cool recently? Got a picture? Show us!<br />
<br />
Yesterday, I finished building this Lego model of our dog, Finny.<br />
<br />
[img]<a href="https://flic.kr/p/2s4mUxz" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55171996999_61b582411c_b.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 55171996999_61b582411c_b.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>[/img]<br />
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[img]<a href="https://flic.kr/p/2s4kDAe" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55171751581_0869e0626a_b.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 55171751581_0869e0626a_b.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>[/img]<br />
<br />
In other news, my friend and neighbor, an avid runner, had seen me going for bike rides every day and finally decided that it's something he has to do. We've ridden a few times together so far. Yesterday was a gorgeous day, so we rode 26 miles on Skyline Drive in Shenandoah National Park. He's trading in his flat bar bike for a 'proper road bike' and I'm really excited to have a new and enthusiastic and ambitious riding buddy living right across the street.<br />
<br />
[img]<a href="https://flic.kr/p/2s48Dda" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55169408957_a35edeb3b1_b.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 55169408957_a35edeb3b1_b.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>[/img]<br />
<br />
And here's one from a ride with a different friend from a couple of days ago. I'm the photographer, not the photographee. I love this little valley area in the national forest, one of my favorite 1ish mile stretches of road that I've ever ridden on! Creek on one side, usually rife with fisherpeople, rocks on the other side, on weekends crawling with climbers, and mountains rising up ahead as you gently but hastily descend on the bike.<br />
[img]<a href="https://flic.kr/p/2s3Tjwm" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55166614528_dd7d039e0d_b.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 55166614528_dd7d039e0d_b.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>[/img]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[In the rare instances that they surface, I enjoy seeing pictures from the daily lives of my fellow AGHS dwellers.<br />
<br />
Did you go somewhere, do something, or make something cool recently? Got a picture? Show us!<br />
<br />
Yesterday, I finished building this Lego model of our dog, Finny.<br />
<br />
[img]<a href="https://flic.kr/p/2s4mUxz" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55171996999_61b582411c_b.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 55171996999_61b582411c_b.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>[/img]<br />
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[img]<a href="https://flic.kr/p/2s4kDAe" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55171751581_0869e0626a_b.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 55171751581_0869e0626a_b.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>[/img]<br />
<br />
In other news, my friend and neighbor, an avid runner, had seen me going for bike rides every day and finally decided that it's something he has to do. We've ridden a few times together so far. Yesterday was a gorgeous day, so we rode 26 miles on Skyline Drive in Shenandoah National Park. He's trading in his flat bar bike for a 'proper road bike' and I'm really excited to have a new and enthusiastic and ambitious riding buddy living right across the street.<br />
<br />
[img]<a href="https://flic.kr/p/2s48Dda" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55169408957_a35edeb3b1_b.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 55169408957_a35edeb3b1_b.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>[/img]<br />
<br />
And here's one from a ride with a different friend from a couple of days ago. I'm the photographer, not the photographee. I love this little valley area in the national forest, one of my favorite 1ish mile stretches of road that I've ever ridden on! Creek on one side, usually rife with fisherpeople, rocks on the other side, on weekends crawling with climbers, and mountains rising up ahead as you gently but hastily descend on the bike.<br />
[img]<a href="https://flic.kr/p/2s3Tjwm" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55166614528_dd7d039e0d_b.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 55166614528_dd7d039e0d_b.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>[/img]]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Sports!]]></title>
			<link>https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/showthread.php?tid=632</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2026 06:30:44 -0700</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=29">BobVP</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Very unrelatd to the topic that draws us together, but I'm curious whether people here play sports or have any hobbies relating to physical activity. <br />
<br />
I ride a longboard and do some light skateboarding as well. I ride my bicycle a lot, though it's mostly for work. I do enjoy it quite a bit. I frequently do strenght training, bench press, curls, squats, stuff like that. I gained a decent amount of muscle mass the past four years.<br />
<br />
I used to sprint - I was fast! I also took longer runs, two, two-and-a-half hours. I did some basic strenght training to go with it, push ups, pull ups and curls. I was mostly built for speed in my twenties. I still do sprints to keep my condition in order, but I don't push myself like I used to in this field.<br />
<br />
I've been thinking about joining a team sport, but I'm not sure which one. I'm mostly interested in the social aspect. Maybe I'll join a gym.<br />
<br />
I'm curious about the rest of you. Maybe you don't do anything physical, but you're quite good at chess, or bridge? Maybe you don't play, but you are an ardent fan? You have a favourite team?<br />
<br />
 Share your sports-related hobbies here!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Very unrelatd to the topic that draws us together, but I'm curious whether people here play sports or have any hobbies relating to physical activity. <br />
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I ride a longboard and do some light skateboarding as well. I ride my bicycle a lot, though it's mostly for work. I do enjoy it quite a bit. I frequently do strenght training, bench press, curls, squats, stuff like that. I gained a decent amount of muscle mass the past four years.<br />
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I used to sprint - I was fast! I also took longer runs, two, two-and-a-half hours. I did some basic strenght training to go with it, push ups, pull ups and curls. I was mostly built for speed in my twenties. I still do sprints to keep my condition in order, but I don't push myself like I used to in this field.<br />
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I've been thinking about joining a team sport, but I'm not sure which one. I'm mostly interested in the social aspect. Maybe I'll join a gym.<br />
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I'm curious about the rest of you. Maybe you don't do anything physical, but you're quite good at chess, or bridge? Maybe you don't play, but you are an ardent fan? You have a favourite team?<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Old Adventure Gamer Finding a Happy Home]]></title>
			<link>https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/showthread.php?tid=627</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2026 21:46:10 -0700</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=622">CrisGer</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello All, I have been a dedicated adventure gamer for decades now, more than i want to count. I was in Just Adventure and then Adventure Gamers, tho I didnt post there as much but it is gone I found out sadly. I tracked you guys down here and will be happy to stay a while.<br />
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I have played and collected originals of most great games from the 80s, 90s, 2000s. and some from earlier. My all time favs are Anachronox (hoping still for part 2), Omikiron, The Longest Journey (tho the sequels I fear did not live up to my hopes), the Kyrandia series (have the original talkie verisions) Love Westwoods games all of them, Syberia, all of the Tomb Raider games (not the modern horrible remakes), all of the space quest games, well the list goes on and on. I have had wonderful AG friends over the years, hope to reconnect with some here, some we lost, like Karla Munger, and others may have passed on since i was in contact. I Ended up in some MMOs. still love all of the Myst games and was very active in URU and URU online, thru Game Tap and on to the current online Official Shard where we are now restoring the Descent content never completed in the online version. I hope to connect here and share, and hear and tell tales, and enjoy the fun we all love about the wonderful Adventures games past, present and future. <br />
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hello to any who remember me (was christopherger very early on) maybe other avatar names i dont recall i am 73 now and my memory has holes. thanks so much to the two founders here ..thank god you gave us a home again. And i am sorry the Adventure Gamers site got lost to jerks. <br />
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best regards to all<br />
CrisGer<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello All, I have been a dedicated adventure gamer for decades now, more than i want to count. I was in Just Adventure and then Adventure Gamers, tho I didnt post there as much but it is gone I found out sadly. I tracked you guys down here and will be happy to stay a while.<br />
<br />
I have played and collected originals of most great games from the 80s, 90s, 2000s. and some from earlier. My all time favs are Anachronox (hoping still for part 2), Omikiron, The Longest Journey (tho the sequels I fear did not live up to my hopes), the Kyrandia series (have the original talkie verisions) Love Westwoods games all of them, Syberia, all of the Tomb Raider games (not the modern horrible remakes), all of the space quest games, well the list goes on and on. I have had wonderful AG friends over the years, hope to reconnect with some here, some we lost, like Karla Munger, and others may have passed on since i was in contact. I Ended up in some MMOs. still love all of the Myst games and was very active in URU and URU online, thru Game Tap and on to the current online Official Shard where we are now restoring the Descent content never completed in the online version. I hope to connect here and share, and hear and tell tales, and enjoy the fun we all love about the wonderful Adventures games past, present and future. <br />
<br />
hello to any who remember me (was christopherger very early on) maybe other avatar names i dont recall i am 73 now and my memory has holes. thanks so much to the two founders here ..thank god you gave us a home again. And i am sorry the Adventure Gamers site got lost to jerks. <br />
<br />
best regards to all<br />
CrisGer<br />
<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[got here from a YouTube video]]></title>
			<link>https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/showthread.php?tid=625</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 21:29:06 -0700</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=617">phluffie</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello!<br />
The latest (I think) video of Bellular News talks a good bit about adventuregamers forums and what's happened with it.  Fascinating and infuriating. I was digging into the old site and looking up Jack lead me here, and oh thank goodness the forums exist here so hopefully the community wasn't lost <img src="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/images/smilies/smile.png" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" /><br />
video is here -<br />
"Dead Internet Theory Is Real: Resident Evil Requiem Exposed It"<br />
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<a href="https://youtu.be/L-Vrhzqwr10?si=pRbqN_sKCbYiuZvN" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://youtu.be/L-Vrhzqwr10?si=pRbqN_sKCbYiuZvN</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello!<br />
The latest (I think) video of Bellular News talks a good bit about adventuregamers forums and what's happened with it.  Fascinating and infuriating. I was digging into the old site and looking up Jack lead me here, and oh thank goodness the forums exist here so hopefully the community wasn't lost <img src="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/images/smilies/smile.png" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" /><br />
video is here -<br />
"Dead Internet Theory Is Real: Resident Evil Requiem Exposed It"<br />
<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/L-Vrhzqwr10?si=pRbqN_sKCbYiuZvN" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://youtu.be/L-Vrhzqwr10?si=pRbqN_sKCbYiuZvN</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[I’m back]]></title>
			<link>https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/showthread.php?tid=602</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2026 10:33:57 -0800</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=588">winfrey</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[It’s been awhile since I was here and it took me a moment to figure things out, but Hi everyone… good to be here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[It’s been awhile since I was here and it took me a moment to figure things out, but Hi everyone… good to be here.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[What upcoming show/movie/book are you looking forward to?]]></title>
			<link>https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/showthread.php?tid=591</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2026 05:49:39 -0800</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=10">Joshua AGH</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I honestly can’t think of anything that I’m excited for. I already read the latest Pendergast novel by Preston &amp; Child. I’m sort of looking forward to season 2 of Alex Cross. <br />
Baaaah. Entertainment is no longer entertaining.<br />
Ohhh: Forgot about The Odyssey. Majorly looking forward to that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I honestly can’t think of anything that I’m excited for. I already read the latest Pendergast novel by Preston &amp; Child. I’m sort of looking forward to season 2 of Alex Cross. <br />
Baaaah. Entertainment is no longer entertaining.<br />
Ohhh: Forgot about The Odyssey. Majorly looking forward to that.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[I made a new friend]]></title>
			<link>https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/showthread.php?tid=452</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2026 10:59:03 -0800</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=29">BobVP</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Very chill individual.<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Discussion over Wild Boar Mystery]]></title>
			<link>https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/showthread.php?tid=414</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2025 23:50:28 -0800</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=95">Wild Boar</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I write in German, hence the German puns and onomatopoeia in the names. (Although these were the real names.)<br />
Those who read it found at least the first part funny. But these are all readers who are familiar with wild boars, at least from hearsay, or have encountered them before. At least the AI has already figured out who the murderer is, but fortunately the readers haven't.<br />
It will be a long time before the story is finished. I am so dissatisfied with the second part that I have to start the rough draft all over again.<br />
<br />
And then I have to revise it. I can't do “show don't tell” at all, and the course on it isn't until May. I doubt I'll have much time in the summer. If my joints are back to normal by then, I'll be spending my days at the lake.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I write in German, hence the German puns and onomatopoeia in the names. (Although these were the real names.)<br />
Those who read it found at least the first part funny. But these are all readers who are familiar with wild boars, at least from hearsay, or have encountered them before. At least the AI has already figured out who the murderer is, but fortunately the readers haven't.<br />
It will be a long time before the story is finished. I am so dissatisfied with the second part that I have to start the rough draft all over again.<br />
<br />
And then I have to revise it. I can't do “show don't tell” at all, and the course on it isn't until May. I doubt I'll have much time in the summer. If my joints are back to normal by then, I'll be spending my days at the lake.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Fifty years today since the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald]]></title>
			<link>https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/showthread.php?tid=371</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2025 17:21:33 -0800</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=2">Jackal</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I'm not sure if this incident is very well known outside of North America, or even through most parts of the US outside of the Great Lakes region, but today marks the 50th anniversary of the sinking of the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">SS Edmund Fitzgerald</span> in Lake Superior and I've been thinking about it a lot, so now you're stuck reading about it. <br />
<br />
The ship was a massive 700-foot American freighter that got caught in a hurricane-strength storm (not technically a hurricane, but the Great Lakes are so huge they have their own violent weather systems that can rival the oceans) and went down suddenly in Canadian waters with all 29 men aboard without even a final distress call. <br />
<br />
Surely not the biggest of naval catastrophes in the world, but perhaps one of the best known because it was immortalized by singer-songwriter Gordon Lightfoot in his haunting folk ballad "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald." I'm old enough to have grown up with the song, and to this day it remains hugely influential in driving interest to the museum in the region that honours the fallen sailors. <br />
<br />
The ship has been found but the exact cause of the wreck still isn't known, and further expeditions are largely forbidden. The waters are so cold there that the ship and its crew are still largely preserved, so it's essentially considered a graveyard at sea. <br />
<br />
Anyway, it's a fascinating story, and a gut-wrenching tribute song by Lightfoot if you've never heard it. I encourage you to have a listen, and I can't imagine anyone not being moved by it. <br />
<br />
Fun fact: The song was recorded only a month or so after the sinking, and the recording was not just from a <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">single take</span>, but the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">very first take</span>, and even more incredibly, the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">very first time they actually played it together</span> in full. The drummer didn't even know when to come in, waiting for Lightfoot to nod as a cue, and it went on so long without that he thought Lightfoot had forgotten! They did a few more takes after that, but none captured the magic of that very first attempt. <br />
<br />
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/9vST6hVRj2A" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe><br />
<br />
And as a special bonus, here's a fairly new music video with a cover of the song by an a capella group called Home Free. I was initially skeptical that anyone could do the song justice, but dang they dun good! <br />
<br />
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Um1PCCkyYHE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm not sure if this incident is very well known outside of North America, or even through most parts of the US outside of the Great Lakes region, but today marks the 50th anniversary of the sinking of the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">SS Edmund Fitzgerald</span> in Lake Superior and I've been thinking about it a lot, so now you're stuck reading about it. <br />
<br />
The ship was a massive 700-foot American freighter that got caught in a hurricane-strength storm (not technically a hurricane, but the Great Lakes are so huge they have their own violent weather systems that can rival the oceans) and went down suddenly in Canadian waters with all 29 men aboard without even a final distress call. <br />
<br />
Surely not the biggest of naval catastrophes in the world, but perhaps one of the best known because it was immortalized by singer-songwriter Gordon Lightfoot in his haunting folk ballad "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald." I'm old enough to have grown up with the song, and to this day it remains hugely influential in driving interest to the museum in the region that honours the fallen sailors. <br />
<br />
The ship has been found but the exact cause of the wreck still isn't known, and further expeditions are largely forbidden. The waters are so cold there that the ship and its crew are still largely preserved, so it's essentially considered a graveyard at sea. <br />
<br />
Anyway, it's a fascinating story, and a gut-wrenching tribute song by Lightfoot if you've never heard it. I encourage you to have a listen, and I can't imagine anyone not being moved by it. <br />
<br />
Fun fact: The song was recorded only a month or so after the sinking, and the recording was not just from a <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">single take</span>, but the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">very first take</span>, and even more incredibly, the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">very first time they actually played it together</span> in full. The drummer didn't even know when to come in, waiting for Lightfoot to nod as a cue, and it went on so long without that he thought Lightfoot had forgotten! They did a few more takes after that, but none captured the magic of that very first attempt. <br />
<br />
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/9vST6hVRj2A" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe><br />
<br />
And as a special bonus, here's a fairly new music video with a cover of the song by an a capella group called Home Free. I was initially skeptical that anyone could do the song justice, but dang they dun good! <br />
<br />
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Um1PCCkyYHE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[The New Affinity]]></title>
			<link>https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/showthread.php?tid=356</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2025 15:16:22 -0700</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=166">Jabod</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[In the Windows 11 upgrade thread we had a divergence regarding Publisher/Affinity where I noted that you couldn't buy Affinity at the moment due to "Creative Freedom" coming and no-one was sure what this meant and whether Affinity would become subscription based. Well, not only is not subscription based the whole package is now free.<br />
As an Affinity user (Photo) I registered to keep up to date with the developments and yesterday downloaded the new, complete, package. Haven't had any free time to check it out nor to view the released video announcement about this which you can watch here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbGcO9x0VlQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Affinity Release Announcement</a><br />
<br />
This may prove good news for very many creative people here. Time will tell of course  <img src="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/images/smilies/smile.png" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[In the Windows 11 upgrade thread we had a divergence regarding Publisher/Affinity where I noted that you couldn't buy Affinity at the moment due to "Creative Freedom" coming and no-one was sure what this meant and whether Affinity would become subscription based. Well, not only is not subscription based the whole package is now free.<br />
As an Affinity user (Photo) I registered to keep up to date with the developments and yesterday downloaded the new, complete, package. Haven't had any free time to check it out nor to view the released video announcement about this which you can watch here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbGcO9x0VlQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Affinity Release Announcement</a><br />
<br />
This may prove good news for very many creative people here. Time will tell of course  <img src="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/images/smilies/smile.png" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" />]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Upgrading to Windows 11 - yay or nay?]]></title>
			<link>https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/showthread.php?tid=317</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2025 03:52:48 -0700</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=31">LeftHandedGuitarist</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi all. I was hoping to get some thoughts from those who have made to jump to Windows 11 now.<br />
<br />
Being in Europe, we've got another year of Windows 10 updates for free so don't feel an immediate need to upgrade, but am wondering whether it would be worth it in the near future. Currently Win 10 is beautifully stable and fast for me and all my software runs happily on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi all. I was hoping to get some thoughts from those who have made to jump to Windows 11 now.<br />
<br />
Being in Europe, we've got another year of Windows 10 updates for free so don't feel an immediate need to upgrade, but am wondering whether it would be worth it in the near future. Currently Win 10 is beautifully stable and fast for me and all my software runs happily on it.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Write A Fun Fact About Yourself]]></title>
			<link>https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/showthread.php?tid=316</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2025 12:35:38 -0700</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=142">Legerdemancy</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Time for another one of those fun forum games. Remember those from back in the day?  <img src="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/images/smilies/cool.png" alt="Cool" title="Cool" class="smilie smilie_3" /><br />
<br />
Fun fact: I once attended 10 different magic shows in the space of 48 hours. No, I wouldn’t recommend it, it's a lot to take on board. Luckily I like focusing on the impromptu jokes magicians use to show us that they are properly interacting with the audience.<br />
<br />
Bonus fact: My username is an original portmanteau that I created. It's a combination of legerdemain (sleight of hand) with the suffix mancy (divination).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Time for another one of those fun forum games. Remember those from back in the day?  <img src="https://community.adventuregamehotspot.com/images/smilies/cool.png" alt="Cool" title="Cool" class="smilie smilie_3" /><br />
<br />
Fun fact: I once attended 10 different magic shows in the space of 48 hours. No, I wouldn’t recommend it, it's a lot to take on board. Luckily I like focusing on the impromptu jokes magicians use to show us that they are properly interacting with the audience.<br />
<br />
Bonus fact: My username is an original portmanteau that I created. It's a combination of legerdemain (sleight of hand) with the suffix mancy (divination).]]></content:encoded>
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