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chrissie   10-26-2025, 11:18 AM  
#11
I’m very disappointed that the support for Win 10 has been discontinued from this month although if you already have it, you can extend it for another year which I have done. I wouldn’t mind upgrading except that my very expensive computer that I’ve only had for a few years is not upgradeable & my only option is to buy a new PC - that’s pretty despicable on the part of Microsoft!
The other thing that they’re doing is withdrawing support for Microsoft Publisher from next October which, like many others, I use/have used for a variety of reasons & have many files to try & find another home for as well as trying to get my head around another programme.
LeftHandedGuitarist   10-26-2025, 01:20 PM  
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(10-26-2025, 11:18 AM)chrissie Wrote: I’m very disappointed that the support for Win 10 has been discontinued from this month although if you already have it, you can extend it for another year which I have done. I wouldn’t mind upgrading except that my very expensive computer that I’ve only had for a few years is not upgradeable & my only option is to buy a new PC  -  that’s pretty despicable on the part of Microsoft!

It is extremely annoying, but worth investigating if fixable depending on the reasons. Initially, my PC was refusing the Windows 11 upgrade due to some requirements (TPM 2.0 and secure boot, I believe), but I was actually able to fix that with some adjustments to the BIOS and hard disk architecture. Is that what's blocking you or is it more hardware based?
Jabod   10-26-2025, 03:03 PM  
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(10-26-2025, 11:18 AM)chrissie Wrote: The other thing that they’re doing is withdrawing support for Microsoft Publisher from next October which, like many others, I use/have used for a variety of reasons & have many files to try & find another home for as well as trying to get my head around another programme.

Even though support is ending Chrissie MS Publisher should still work if you're using a stand-alone version. 365 stops permanently though which is a disgrace.
Best alternative that I know of is Affinity Publisher but you can't buy it until October 30th when version 2 is released. I don't use it personally but I do use Affinity Photo for Photo work and it's easily up there with Adobe's Photoshop and at a fraction of the cost.
Two things to keep in mind. MS has closely guarded the file type (.pub) structure and Affinity can't directly import. However, save the .pub files as PDFs and they can then be used by Affinity Publisher. You can also open/save them as type that LibreOffice Draw can use but you are prone to lose some formatting.
The second thing is that, at the moment, no-one knows what the pricing structure Affinity Publisher are going to use with version 2. Affinity was bought up by another company that does month;y price plans but they said Affinity would always have stand-alone pricing. We wait and see on that one.
Hexenwerk   10-26-2025, 07:02 PM  
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(10-26-2025, 03:03 PM)Jabod Wrote:
(10-26-2025, 11:18 AM)chrissie Wrote: The other thing that they’re doing is withdrawing support for Microsoft Publisher from next October which, like many others, I use/have used for a variety of reasons & have many files to try & find another home for as well as trying to get my head around another programme.


Best alternative that I know of is Affinity Publisher but you can't buy it until October 30th when version 2 is released. [...]
The second thing is that, at the moment, no-one knows what the pricing structure Affinity Publisher are going to use with version 2. Affinity was bought up by another company that does monthly price plans but they said Affinity would always have stand-alone pricing. We wait and see on that one.

Huh, wait ... I know this thread is about Windows 11, but I am confused about this Affinity stuff. Didn't know the company was sold. But Version 2 has already been released a while ago. Are you talking about a new Version 3 which might be upcoming, or something else?

I'll now be watching this as well, since I have purchased an Affinity license quite a while ago and am interested in what will happen with that update ...
This post was last modified: 10-26-2025, 07:22 PM by Hexenwerk.
Jabod   10-26-2025, 08:47 PM  
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(10-26-2025, 07:02 PM)Hexenwerk Wrote:
(10-26-2025, 03:03 PM)Jabod Wrote: Best alternative that I know of is Affinity Publisher but you can't buy it until October 30th when version 2 is released. [...]
The second thing is that, at the moment, no-one knows what the pricing structure Affinity Publisher are going to use with version 2. Affinity was bought up by another company that does monthly price plans but they said Affinity would always have stand-alone pricing. We wait and see on that one.

Huh, wait ... I know this thread is about Windows 11, but I am confused about this Affinity stuff. Didn't know the company was sold. But Version 2 has already been released a while ago. Are you talking about a new Version 3 which might be upcoming, or something else?

I'll now be watching this as well, since I have purchased an Affinity license quite a while ago and am interested in what will happen with that update ...

No, Hexenwerk, I'm referring to "Creative Freedom" the, apparent, next gen of Affinity software. Sorry for any confusion.
A good explanation and potted history can be found here: Affinity Creative Freedom
Jen   10-26-2025, 08:53 PM  
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I have used several paid/pro-level DTP programs, and they all will import PDFs. None will import Publisher files, though. Microsoft are bastards like that. Anyway, if you save all of your Publisher files as PDF, you should be able to use them in whatever your next DTP program is.
Hexenwerk   10-26-2025, 10:56 PM  
#17
Thank you so much for this warning about what has happened and is happening with Affinity. I made sure to download the current Affinity version, since you never know ...

About importing files, I remember that importing quarkxpress files had been a problem as well back then, when I worked with that. So it's not just Microsoft.

Have any of you tried Photopea or Vectorpea? (both free, running online in the browser)
I think those are at least nice tools if you just need them for something small (wouldn't recommend such tools for big professional projects).
chrissie   10-27-2025, 09:10 AM  
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I'm not tech savvy enough, LeftHandedGuitarist, to know why I can't upgrade to win 11 but thank you, your post has given me an incentive to look into it more as ditching an otherwise perfectly good machine seems such a waste.
Unfortunately I've got the 365 version of Publisher Jabod but thanks for the recommendations & tips!

I haven't heard of Photopea or Vectorpea Hexenwerk, but will have a look.
Jabod   10-27-2025, 09:53 AM  
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(10-27-2025, 09:10 AM)chrissie Wrote: I'm not tech savvy enough, LeftHandedGuitarist, to know why I can't upgrade to win 11 but thank you, your post has given me an incentive to look into it more as  ditching an otherwise perfectly good machine seems such a waste.
Unfortunately I've got the 365 version of Publisher Jabod but thanks for the recommendations & tips!

I haven't heard of Photopea or Vectorpea  Hexenwerk, but will have a look.

You won't have to ditch the PC Chrissie as it will still work, unlike Publisher, but just not get security updates - as I'm sure that you're aware. I've still got working XP, Win 7, Win 10 Win 11 (obviously) and Linux machines. They all work fine except one Win 10 PC but that one was an upgraded Win 7 PC and is now running appallingly slowly. If you do decide to get a new PC down the line then why not rebuild the current one as a Linux box? There's loads of free software for it these days (although not so many games) but it would be a good learning ground to see what you can do away from the MS architecture. I personally recommend Zorin as the version to use as it's amazingly simple to install, updates are frequent (as are all Linux builds as they apply to all versions) and it's one of the best Windows style user interfaces there is so very little to learn anew. Like all Linux distributions it's free but there is a pay for version (around £55 last time I looked) that includes a load of pre-installed software to save you the hassle. The software can be downloaded separately from various sources for free but it can save some time and will be fully configured.
Something to consider for next year perhaps
This post was last modified: 10-27-2025, 09:55 AM by Jabod.
Legerdemancy   10-27-2025, 10:55 AM  
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(10-26-2025, 10:56 PM)Hexenwerk Wrote: Have any of you tried Photopea or Vectorpea? (both free, running online in the browser)

(10-27-2025, 09:10 AM)chrissie Wrote: I haven't heard of Photopea or Vectorpea  Hexenwerk, but will have a look.

I personally don't use any 'online' services in circumstances where I could just use a dedicated desktop program instead. By default you're automatically sacrificing a lot of your privacy for the sake of convenience or to save money. Not that I use publishing software, but my recommendation would be something along the lines of Scribus:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scribus

(10-27-2025, 09:53 AM)Jabod Wrote: If you do decide to get a new PC down the line then why not rebuild the current one as a Linux box? There's loads of free software for it these days (although not so many games) but it would be a good learning ground to see what you can do away from the MS architecture.

Respectfully, I disagree with that suggestion, Jabod. Chrissie has already mentioned not being tech savvy enough to know why her computer can't upgrade to Windows 11. My general rule of thumb is that Linux and BSD are best suited to people that know what 'binary blobs' are. Otherwise it's a bit like throwing someone into the deep end.

Proprietary video technologies are a huge advantage that both Windows and Mac operating systems have over the various free operating systems, which is crucial for things like Blu-ray playback and accurate colour reproduction.

Again, respectfully, the "loads of free software" you mentioned is not a very compelling rationale to use Linux from my perspective, because all of the highest quality FOSS eventually gets ported to Windows.
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